Nate Parker does not get a pass. Neither does Jean Celestin. Nor does the creation of a film of historic significance about rebellion, redemption and freedom. The success of the film, Birth of a Nation, was a testament to triumph and was a success before it was ever released. Now, it is a reminder that rape culture is real. It is a reminder that men who do not regard women as full and whole human beings are able to live out their lives and create success for themselves while destroying the lives of women.

33 years ago to this day someone attempted to take my life, my innocence, my virtue and my free spirit. I was called a homewrecker. I was called a whore. I was reduced to the sum of my parts by people I thought loved me. I was a nine-year-old girl in Baltimore.

As vivid and horrific as the memory and events of that day are, this is not about me. This is about Nate Parker parking his illustrious ass in my backyard, boasting about his freedom, his success, his love, his daughters, in the face of someone who has lived with the terror of the same act he violated another with. He is not allowed to shit on my lawn and call it love. He’s here to tell his story. He’s made his life about telling stories, but this one was kept quiet. Until now. Still, he’s here to tell his story. She is not.

Long story short: He and his then roommate (and co-writer of Birth of a Nation) gang raped a girl at Penn State. Nate got off because he had a previous relationship with the girl (something that often happens in acquaintance rape cases). Celestin got 6 months in jail, but won his appeal because the victim refused to testify again. She was harassed by them, unprotected by Penn State and became suicidal, making several attempts to end her life, succeeding in 2012. Her life was utterly destroyed. His went on. Now that he’s in the spotlight, what was never a secret is now headline news, because he is. (It didn’t help he gave a creepy interview acknowledging the rape, but pushing his exoneration).

Just last week, a report was released, a federal investigation into the Baltimore police department. Of the many findings, one of the most glaring issues, was the treatment of sexual assault and rape cases. It hit home in a way I still have a hard time finding words to describe. I’m not going to dwell on that, you can read more about it here. Once you do read about it, and I do encourage you to read it, I want you to imagine going back 33 years. If you think it’s bad now or was in 2012, imagine what it was like 33 years ago.

Back then, we had communities that were poor, but whole. One of the dynamics of community in this regard is that if one person comes forward and acknowledges a pain or hurt, it gave someone else in that same community the safety and the courage to come forward to speak of their own pain. This happened quite often in adolescence, especially when it came to girls who had hips before the age of 12 and breasts, fully rounded by middle school. Let’s talk about this thing for real. Let’s talk about the fact that in black communities and other communities of color and women are already last in everything but education. Women are last to be humanized, if at all, we are last to be paid and certainly not equally, women are last to be considered in quality of life. Women are last and that last place makes us targets. We are the safe secret.

Everyday there is a new story about a woman killed by her lover or her husband; a child killed and family destroyed to get back at a woman by her lover or her husband; a woman killed for rejecting the advances of men wanting to control her response and her. Every single day we face the reality: owning who we are could cost us our lives. Every single day we send our daughters to school to work not knowing whether or not they will come back whole and every single day we fight on the front lines of our brothers who ignore our struggle and don’t reciprocate. We fight to hold it all together in the name of love, in the name of Jesus, in the name of family, in the name of sanity, if there is such a thing. In spite of it all, every day we are reminded that violence against our minds and our bodies matters less and less.

This is the first time I’ve publicly acknowledged being raped at the age of nine. I’ve done a lot of work to heal and the truth is you never really do. Not fully. You learn to live with it. Well, some of us learn to live, others simply cannot, it is just too much to bear. It is a virtual impossibility to heal from your body being taken from you and violated in ungodly ways, when you see every day and you’re told every day and you’re taught every day that you don’t mean shit to the world you live in and contribute to. I remember the names and faces of the children I grew up with who shared the same pain. Many succumbed to lives of prostitution, drug abuse, crime and death. They survived the best way they knew how. There are a great many unnamed women, just like the victim of Nate Parker and Jean Celestin, who are no longer here to tell their stories. Remember, where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Remember, there is never only one. Remember the birth of this nation.

I wonder what the outcome would have been if someone actually believed us (enough).

Stand up. Speak up. Be willing to heal, to get help. Be here.

National Sexual Assault Hotline
1-800-656-4673
RAINN – Rape Abuse and Incest National Network

National Domestic Violence Hotline
TheHotline.org
1800-799-7223

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
Suicidepreventionlifeline.org
1-800-273-8255

 

Caron J is a writer, artist, activist and the host of The CARONISMShow on 100.1 The Heat and a writer and co-host of BlackGirlNerds and BGNPodcast.  In her spare time, she is a lover of all things beautiful, a hot granny and a pimp.

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  • KA

    I appreciate you writing this. What you went through can be attributed to what has been called in the last few years #FastTailedGirls, in essence, blaming underaged girls for attacks against them by grown men. It’s really quite disgusting.

    • CARONISM

      It’s interesting you brought that up. I have been having discussions for the last couple of weeks about the language we use towards young girls, especially the term “fast”. There are a few reasons for hyper sexual behavior in adolescents. It’s a symptom – for some it’s because of the inappropriate attention, physical and otherwise, from adult men. For others, it is a symptom of a number of mental illness/disorder, including those that may have been trauma induced, depression and bi-polar or schizoeffective. It is quite disgusting. Girls are tossed aside and ignored or disregarded when we need to pay MORE attention to them to find out what’s really going on.

  • BaronMatrix

    Strength to you… I lost “friends” over gang “sex..” I lost even more because sports are the pinnacle of rape culture and I refuse to even watch any pro sports… Rape is treated like racism in America.. There will never be a precedent to use against those who ruin people’s lives with them… You have to prove it as if yours is the first case…

    The LIVES in BlackLIVESMatter go beyond the right to not be shot dead… Especially for black women… But regardless of what anyone believes, I’m here i the tranches ending intimidation and marginalization as I can… And yes it has cost me 10s of 1000s in lost salary but my sistas are more important…

  • Mr. M

    Damn – best response to this story I have read so far.

    • CARONISM

      Thank you.

      • Mr. M

        Thank YOU for sharing your incredible story.

  • Classic

    Wonderful article!

    • CARONISM

      Thank you for reading.

  • Wicked Annie

    This is a harrowing and beautiful piece. Thank you so much for writing it,

    • CARONISM

      Thank you for being here to read it.

  • Alan Roger Currie

    So … what is your suggestion for how Nate Parker should live his life from this point forward? Constantly apologizing for something that happened 17 years ago? Kill himself? Stop being a screenwriter / actor / director? Other?

    • Alan Roger Currie
    • CARONISM

      My suggestion is for Nate Parker to stop talking out of both sides of his mouth. Start with the truth. He cannot both acknowledge what he did AND profess innocence. To be clear, he has never apologized. Kill himself? You are being ridiculous. Besides, one suicide is enough in this case.

    • BaronMatrix

      Have you ever been raped…? Harassed, ridiculed for being a math geek…? If not STFU and show support for a most EGREGIOUS CRIME..

  • Jennifer Baker

    Thank you for this and for sharing your story.

    • CARONISM

      Thank you for reading.

  • Ray

    This happened 17 years ago and the charges against him were dropped. His version of the event involved her giving consent. Why do you choose to believe her over him? She had consented to sex with him a day prior although this shouldn’t be used to invalidate her claim. There is just as much evidence of her giving consent as there is of her not giving it. Look rape cases are usually he said she said affairs. In our justice system you need actual proof to convict someone. We can’t continue to demonize someone that is presumed innocent and hasn’t been convicted with evidence. We can’t demonize and place blame on someone for a suicide a decade after he was acquitted. People make plenty of choices in a decade, looks like she was in the habit of making bad ones. We shouldn’t blindly accept a female or male version of an event. Our opinions should be based on fact and when they are evoquivical our society has decided that the accused is innocent until proven guilty.

    • majotay

      She was uncouncious during the encounter but briefly became lucid and realized not only one, but two people were having sex with her. When she later questioned Nate about who the second person was, he denied anyone else was there, when in fact he had invited two other people into his bedroom to have sex with the passed out girl.

      Later she got him to admit in a recorded phone call that there was another person there, the one who was charged with rape.

      So you tell me, if two men are having sex with a girl, how can one be raping her and the other not be?

      If you read the details of the case you will see Nate Parker is full of shit and it’s all coming back to haunt him now.

      I feel so sorry for that girl. I was at a lot of parties where I got drunk and passed out when I was young. Never once was I concerned that someone might try to physically violate me while I slept, but I’m a guy. Another thing ive taken for granted.

      • Ray

        That’s her version of the events. Nate’s version involves her actively participating in the sex and not being able to remember or want to remember doesn’t absolve her from her actions. He also had sex with her in the morning which she remembers in vivid detail. If he was raping her, why didn’t she fight for her life and get out the situation? Why are there no forensics in this case. She also admits to willingly performing oral sex on him prior to the events that transpired. Its pretty hard to give a blow job while you are unconscious which is why NP told her she was actively participating. Sorry, but what I see here is a bunch of young people that had casual sex and one of them had regrets about it two weeks after the fact because her actions that night didn’t match those of the person she believed herself to be, creating cognitive dissonance. I think the term is called, “whore’s remorse”.

      • Ray

        That’s her version of the events. Nate’s version involves her actively participating in the sex and not being able to remember or want to remember doesn’t absolve her from her actions. He also had sex with her in the morning which she remembers in vivid detail. If he was raping her, why didn’t she fight for her life and get out the situation? Why are there no forensics in this case. She also admits to willingly performing oral sex on him prior to the events that transpired. Its pretty hard to give a blow job while you are unconscious which is why NP told her she was actively participating. Sorry, but what I see here is a bunch of young people that had casual sex and one of them had regrets about it two weeks after the fact because her actions that night didn’t match those of the person she believed herself to be, creating cognitive dissonance.

    • C.R.

      It literally astounds me how quickly men are to “trust the law” when a woman has been raped. But police brutality they take at face value. I wonder why that is.

      • Ray

        Men don’t really have any other choice outside of “trust the law”. Rape is the only crime where a person can destroy someone’s life with literally no proof. We are still going after this man decades after the fact, after he’s been acquitted in a case that amounts to he said vs she said with no forensic evidence.

        • CARONISM

          Considering the evidence and his own admission are the very definition of rape, just stop it. Seriously, stop.

          • Ray

            What evidence and what admission? Nothing he said is the definition of rape. It may be your definition, but not the courts.

          • CARONISM

            Please learn to read. It’s important. People learn things, like facts, that way.

          • Ray

            I’ve read everything, I still disagree with you and presented why. No need to be rude. I’m just as intelligent and capable of reasoning as you are. Unlike you I probably do have the ability to take in new ideas and be persuaded otherwise. You just haven’t presented anything factual and concrete, just choosing to validate one version of an event and totally discount the other. She said she was unconscious, he said she was conscious. She said she was drunk, he said she wasn’t and had the ability to consent. She had consented to sex just prior to the event and immediately after. There is no forensic evidence of a struggle. You are so sure of what happened but the evidence does not support you. Rape is a serious crime and people like you cheapen it which is why the public puts actual rape victims thru the ringer. Having regrets about participating in a train is not rape. The ability to consent is cheapened if a person can revoke it after the fact, which is all I see here.

    • CARONISM

      Consent is not perpetual. Saying yes once does not mean you have access like 7-11. Spare me with the apologetics. It’s called acquaintance rape.

      • Ray

        So she consented to oral consent, then withdrew consent, then consented again that morning. That’s hardly perpetual. That’s BS and no wonder he was acquitted. I don’t care what you call it, if its rape then fight like hell and get yourself out of the situation. Go straight to the police and provide them with evidence. Don’t have regrets then go to the police two weeks later after you have washed away potential evidence.

  • ich

    Thank you for sharing you horrifying experience. There are many women (and men) out there that have had to endure such crimes and suffer while their attackers get to move on with little to no punishment.
    I agree that Nate Parker should not get a pass, however I also believe that other actors and Directors like Johnny Depp, Michael Fassbender, Roman Polanski, Bryan Singer, Sean Penn and others like them should not get a pass for their past crimes.
    I personally believe that Parker and Jean Celestin should remove themselves from this project and allow the Birth of a Nation and the opportunities it has created for many POC creatives to thrive. The success of the film, Birth of a Nation has ushered in a HBCU Film and Drama School, and Fellowship programs for POC creatives. Those involved in these projects should not have to suffer due to Nate Parker and Jean Celestin’s crimes.
    Michael Fassbender has been accused and charged for abuse and violence against one of his ex-girlfriends. However, the woman dropped the charges due to intimidation and bulling and there were claims that she may have been paid off by those managing his career. Yet you all are quick to support his film projects. There has been photographic and video evidence of Johnny Depp violent behavior towards his wife Amber Heard, but I am sure you will support Johnny Depp’s films if it peaked your interest.
    If we are going to hold Nate Parker accountable for his crimes, then we all should hold these actors accountable and NOT support their projects.
    Even thought his victims have mostly been men, Bryan Singer has had a slew of rape and molestation charges since the 1990’s and BGN continues to watch films. This selective anger and response to these despicable man only feeds the notion that if a man rapes, or abuses someone, there is a chance he will get away with it, due to the fact that there are so many examples of men thriving despite their treatment of their victims. SMH

    • Mosaicmuse

      We would not have anything to read, watch, listen to or (fill in the blank) if people were to be held to any despicable acts they committed. Disheartening, yet real. I was disappointed when I found out about David Bowie and the baby groupie. If Nate Parker and his co-writer donated their salary/profit of the film to an organization that supported rape victims, would that make it easier to watch the film?

    • Lee

      1.There’s no way for them to remove themselves from a project they co-wrote and Parker directed and starred in.
      Parker and Celestin have already been paid $17 million for the film rights and if it succeeds, they WILL benefit. It’s inevitable. I feel for the other creatives involved but the lesson here is perhaps to do due diligence before working with someone whose rape case has been public knowledge for a decade.
      How could the other creatives not have seen this coming?
      2. I think it’s a little dangerous to conflate Johhny Depp’s case for throwing a phone with Nate Parker’s case for gang raping a woman. Depp’s behaviour isn’t even in the same wheelhouse as Sean Penn being visited by police for tying up and torturing and beating Madonna for hours.
      It’s important to hold everyone accountable for bad behaviour but including a name like Depp in a list like this ends up providing cover for other worse crimes by creating a false equivalence.
      3. The list above itself is a deflection. Not only is it irrelevant to the subject at hand, it pulls focus from Parker’s behaviour and most men on it HAVE had scandals due to their behaviour. How else would you know their names to list? Nate Parker isn’t actually being treated worse than most of them, it’s not like he’s being carted off to jail. The only person there who has really escaped scandal is Sean Penn, and even his films really don’t sell anymore, and frankly neither should Nate Parker’s.

  • johnathankannalives

    You made your personal story about being raped into something about Nate Parker. With all due respect, you need to realize this is just you trying to get back at your rapist. It is clear as day as I read it. You have every right to be angry, but the second you made it personal it was easy to see where you were going with this and it pains me that you don’t even realize it.

    • majotay

      She boldly shared her personal story of rape and how she was treated afterwards in an article about rape and how rape victims are treated in the aftermath. Her personal story was absolutly relevant and, I imagine, very hard to share. She should be commended for doing so.

      • CARONISM

        Thank you. Your words are kind and appreciated.

      • johnathankannalives

        Nah.

    • CARONISM

      Kiss my everlasting ass. It pains me you are this kind of asshole.

    • CARONISM

      As a matter of fact, I have been waiting for you. There is always one – at least one. One who will blame the survivor, blame the story, blame the testimony, blame the text. You blame everything but the rapist. So, I say this with everything within me: I hope you find peace and some semblance of joy in your life. I am neither angry or projecting, you don’t have the right, space or authority to judge me or what I share, so, kiss my ass… And I mean that in the worst way. You are the worst. Bye.

    • BaronMatrix

      Give it a rest… If you can’t defend every victim YOU ARE NOT A MAN… PERIOD…

      • johnathankannalives

        Defend every victim, or alleged victim? People aren’t victims just because they tell a good story. The accused are still innocent until proven guilty.

        • BaronMatrix

          Oh, you think I’m the people you usually hang with… I’m not… I’ll beat the smile off Scooby’s face and make him prove I did it…

          • johnathankannalives

            What are you babbling about

          • BaronMatrix

            Beating down rapists and rape enablers… Read my original post…

          • johnathankannalives

            But you didnt answer my question. Defend every victim or ALLEGED victim? People are not victims just because they tell a good story. You realize the accused are still innocent until proven guilty, right? RIGHT?

          • BaronMatrix

            YES, DEFEND EVERY ONE… Rape is not something that’s reported lightly… As you can see these two were able to torment that poor girl… And yes, there are courts of law that put the victim on trial because of cowards like you…

          • johnathankannalives

            That is stupid to defend anyone regardless if they are telling the truth or not. EVERYONE should get scrutinized, accuser and accused. Nate Parker did nothing wrong, he was exonerated in a court of law, yet lames like you want to torment him and bully him nearly 20 years later – for what? Just because some girl accused him of rape? Plenty of girls yell rape just to get back at guys and they rely on gullible guys like you to be their shepherd. Girls and women are capable of being malicious, manipulative and great evil, just like guys. For you to act like they are not shows me you do not see women as equals to men, you see them as harmless white doves who must be protected and saved by you. You want to be a savior to women, you are the worst kind of guy there is. You are no protector of equal rights for all. You want patriarchy.

          • BaronMatrix

            Police departments have 1000s of rape kits just sitting around never used in proceedings… If they are exposed many times serial rapists have been caught… I think the author said fuck you… I say I woudl fuck you up…

  • CARONISM

    THIS!!! Thank you… What you said about sports and rape culture… OMGosh! yes.

  • lipsticklacey

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your story. All love, light, and strength to you.

    And to all y’all rape apologists, including jonathankannalives, who lightly dismisses the author with “nah,” I hope you’re able to open your eyes someday without it taking a tragedy you personally experience. So many men choosing to be ignorant. It’s just sad.

    • CARONISM

      Thank you for your kindness.

  • CARONISM

    For the record, she did not withdraw consent, it was a separate and different situation. However, IF SHE HAD WITHDRAWN CONSENT, IT WAS ABSOLUTELY HER RIGHT AND ANY WOMAN’S RIGHT TO DO SO! Statements like yours support and are the very definition of rape culture. If you are not willing to listen, learn or be part of the solution, you have no value in this (or any other) conversation.

    • Ray

      I am willing to learn, but he states that she consented. It’s he said vs she said. That’s what you don’t get. You are taking her side of the story as the truth when there is just as much evidence that she gave consent as there is that she didn’t. Given that she had just given consent prior to the event then gave consent for another sexual encounter after the event happened, I’m more inclined to believe NP’s version of the event and apparently the courts agree with me.

      • CARONISM

        That’s now how this works. Read the transcripts and court documents. What you are doing is called rape apologetics and it’s wrong. What is described in court documents, witness testimony and transcripts clearly describes gang rape. Parker’s story is consistent with all of the documents, although he uses protective and flowery language to minimize the violence of it. Anyone under the influence of drugs or alcohol cannot give consent. In this case, she was inebriated and unconscious. HAVING SEX WITH AN UNCONSCIOUS PERSON IS RAPE. PERIOD. He did not do time, his partner did and the only reason he didn’t is the same reason thousands of men get away with sexual assault – prior knowledge of the victim. It does not mean he is innocent. He did it and by his own admission, he was not convicted. It is not the same as being found innocent. I’m going to end this exchange here. Stop making excuses.

        • Ray

          Look it’s your blog and you can end the discussion anytime but to present her side of the story as factual is disingenuous. I have read everything available on this case and their is no conclusive evidence or forensics available. I don’t agree with you that a women can’t consent to having sex after a drink or two. If that’s the case damn near every married couple and the majority of males that have ever had sex would be guilty of rape. So is a woman that has had sex with a willing male that has had a drink or two guilty of rape? because Nate Parker admits to a couple of drinks abefore she performed oral sex. So she’s conscious enough to consent to oral sex but suddenly unable to consent while she was willingly committing a sexual act with two men? It’s pretty hard to perform oral sex while unconscious. She was supposedly unconscious but could remember she had sex with another male, just didn’t know the name. That’s not consistent with someone rendered unconscious by acute alcohol intoxication. Notice how she’s claims to be briefly lucid but only notices their actions. Doesn’t remember anything she’s done. No evidence of struggle during this lucidity. Sorry, acute alcohol intoxication does not present like this and is a red flag and her story deserved to be scrutinized. Furthermore she willingly had sex with him the morning after the alleged rape. Again, no evidence of force. That’s not the behavior of someone in a hostile environment that didn’t feel safe. She doesn’t go immediately to the police and report the rape, allowing for evidence collection. No she ruminates on it for 2 weeks ensuring that the legal system couldn’t work for either of them. This case isn’t as cut and dry as you make it. There are plenty of inconsistencies, enough to where I’m comfortable giving NP the benefit of the doubt.

  • ?

    Thank you for sharing your story, that takes extreme courage & I hope it helps others to hear.

    What I’d like to gain a better understanding of, is how do you suggest we respond to this? I don’t think the justice system is above criticism at all or that rape culture isn’t real, that said, we are talking about a young black man in America who faced his charges in court & was acquitted. I think his actions were reprehensible but what I’m trying to reconcile is what do you think should be a punishment commensurate with his non-crime?

    If he were guilty of sexual assault, the injustice is that he wasn’t convicted. If he isn’t guilty of sexual assault (albeit something still morally reprehensible), the injustice is that people are ostracizing, boycotting & denigrating him for disgusting behavior…that is 17 years in the past & he was acquitted of. Think pieces & rebukes of him as a whole are effective in being cathartic & taking a stand against rape culture (which is to say they’re worthwhile) – but does it represent justice in this case? – for either the late victim or to NP’s right to a trial & rehabilitation? Many people rightfully feel the court of law is not the be-all-end-all of determining “guilt” but for someone deemed not-guilty in court how long should this cloud hang over him…indefinitely? Until each individual that’s outraged is satisfied that he’s sorry on a personal level? Whatever the answer, again simply put, what do you think the punishment should be in this case for a reprehensible act that he was legally deemed not guilty of?

    I welcome your views, as I think this was an all-too-common injustice that’s evolved into a unique case

  • BaronMatrix

    I hate rape apologists… If I got aroused by “men” I’d show you how it feels…

    • Ray

      I hate people that label others with catchy phrases then use it to stifle all debate contrary to their opinion. What I did was present an argument. You are welcome to disagree with me but placing labels on others are the tactics of those with small minds.

  • CARONISM

    Your response is vile. Your vulgarity is not welcome.

    • Ray

      I edited and resubmitted it without that last line because I knew out of everything I wrote, that would be the one thing you would fixate on. Sorry, our young black men have a long history of being accused of rape by so called inebriated “blacked out” white females. This is always a serious threat to any black man that chooses to enter into casual sex with a white female. I’ve seen what Nate has experienced repeatedly in my lifetime. A white girl that has sex with multiple black men willingly, then after it gets out what she has done, she creates a story to absolve herself and reclaim her purity. It happens over and over and over. Its the reason she didn’t go to the cops immediately. Its the reason there were no signs of forcible rape. Its the reason why she took two whole weeks to put her version of reality out into the world. I read the transcripts of her taped conversations with Nate and all I see is the manipulation she employed during those phone calls to try and get him to admit to something that til this day he states never happened. This was while he was unknowingly being recorded and the threat of rape wasn’t looming over his head. He states she willingly participated in a train, and unlike you, I’m going to stand with my black brother because there isn’t enough evidence now or was there back then to convict him or find him wrong of any wrongdoing. I refuse to demonize a black male as many years removed from this event as he was in age when this transpired. NP is on the verge of releasing one of the most important films about our history, a film that shows that black men and women don’t need a white savior to solve their problems. A film that demonstrates our own agency and ability to lift our own selves out of systematic oppression. All this blog does is advocate for us to turn our back on our black brother and reaffirms the beliefs held by whites that black men are raping savages that can’t be trusted alone with innocent white women. That is where the true vulgarity lies.

  • johnathankannalives

    You talk a lot of crap. Come to L.A.and say it to my face.

    • BaronMatrix

      I live in Van Nuys… I don’t respect any man who offers excuses rather than keeping his damn mouth shut…

      • johnathankannalives

        I’m glad you live out here. Give me your email, and I’ll give you my number. Lets meet in person and then you can tell me what you are going to do to me to my face.

        • BaronMatrix

          What I would do would totally depend on your attitude… People screaming this crap are why I embraced violence… I’ll just tell you where I’ll be… I’ll make sure I’m cussing everybody out when you show…
          I think you have me confused for someone else…

          • johnathankannalives

            Nah bro, be a man. You talking that mess, you stay less than 20 min away, give me your email and Ill send you my phone number and lets meet up face to face and you can tell me everything you said in person. You keyboard warriors real slick tho, you talk all that crap, you ain’t trying to back it up. Lil fruit cake

          • BaronMatrix

            My address is on Facebook… I have nothing to do tomorrow… It’s kind of hot but WHERE…? I’ll definitely be near the corner of Sepulveda and Saticoy in Van Nuys…

          • johnathankannalives

            I don’t know your FB. I’ve asked for your email twice now and you refuse to give it out because you are scared. You are the one saying you will do violence to me in person, so lets meet up. You talk all that crap but that is all you do.

          • BaronMatrix

            Sepulveda and Saticoy is better than an email it’s where I live… Now what…? I said if you defend rapists yeah, I have some things to “show you…”

            Van Nuys awaits…

          • johnathankannalives

            Exactly. You are shook. You can give out vague stuff like a street corner, but you can’t give me your email? You can’t talk to me off of this forum? SHOOK.

          • BaronMatrix

            You ain’t the person who will be getting my email address… There’s a nice AMPM there and since you’re offering, just let me know… How would my email be more truthful when I ONLY give Sepulveda and Saticoy in Van Nuys.. I live in a condo with a gate… There’s only one…

            Hurry though, my vacation is over next week, but I will be DTLA…

          • johnathankannalives

            Excuses, excuses. Be a man and stand behind your words.

  • scorpion

    Another article written by a SJW trying to gain sympathy and acceptance by hopping on the bandwagon of tearing down a black man. There is no rape culture, but there is a culture of people who lie about rape that ruin other people’s lives and damages their reputation which make it harder for true victims to be believed!

    • Lee

      Only a person who thinks Social justice is a bad thing uses the phrase Social justice warrior as an insult. What are you, a warrior for social INJUSTICE?
      Judging from your defence of rape and rapists it would appear so…

  • mikelawry

    Regardless of your protestation to the contrary, this is definitely about you and the trauma you allegedly suffered at the hands of an evil black man. You’re projecting yourself all over this and want Nate to pay for what was done to you. Get some counseling. Stop slandering another black man as payback for something he’s not guilty of.